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With That Being Said... Therapy Is Not a Dirty Word

Jun 23, 2017

Marriage is work but is it really that hard?  Esther and Erica discuss the joys and challenges of married life, which may not be hard as we seem to think it is.  Join the conversation as we talk about all the ways we make the 'work' of marriage harder than it has to be. And don't miss this episode's RLW {Read, Listen,...

Jun 14, 2017

Today Esther Boykin and Erica Turner are joined by writer, speaker, and dating expert, Kevin Carr. Kevin chats with us about all the reasons love is not a drive-thru and why killing your dreams is sometimes the key to finding your happily ever after.



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May 19, 2017

We've got a fresh new look and are busy recording some fresh new episodes!  Check out the new look while catching up on our original episodes for the next several weeks.  


With That Being Said is a long conversation about life, love, and everything in between. Hosted by therapists and relationship experts Esther...

Motherhood Isn't Everything with Maimah Karmo {Episode #5}

Jan 11, 2016

It feels almost blasphemous as a mom to say that motherhood isn't everything in my life... and yet it's not.  And I don't think it should be. {gasp}

On today's episode of With That Being Said, Erica and I chat with Maimah Karmo about the role passion, purpose, and parenthood have in her life and the lives of women...